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Aug. 12th, 2004 @ 10:42 am Good Idea
Just wanted to thank the creator of this community. I think it is important to discuss certain issues relating to Toronto itself. I have tried to post opinion pieces on the normal Toronto community and responses have been mixed. I don't expect to get praise for everything that I post, but at the very least would like to be in the correct context.

I really feel having lived in this city for the better part of my life that people should be passionate on the ongoings and issues of their city. If it's tooting your own horn, what is so bad about it?

Toronto Life magazine's article three years ago about how Toronto is the most hated city in Canada by Canadians obviously lead people to ask why. I feel that this city is one of the best in the world, and frankly admire any issues that anyone wishes to discuss relating to it.

So to the person that created this community....thanks!
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From:apple_danish
Date:August 12th, 2004 10:53 am (UTC)

toronto...hated?

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i can't imagine that as toronto is such a diverse city and the people in it and their attitudes/lifestyles cannot be generalized. i think in toronto you get a good sample of the good, the bad, the ugly and the pretty (not in a superficial sense) and everything in between.

i don't see a reason to hate toronto...can't say the same for the weather though
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From:ladydae
Date:August 12th, 2004 05:45 pm (UTC)
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I wonder if Canada's feelings:Toronto is analogous to World's feelings:US

A power thing, and a way-of-thinking thing.

I'm originally from a different city, and my family's attitude towards Toronto has always been that the city and its inhabitants are sort of insular due to the size and centrality. Everything seems to attempt to revolve around Toronto, and Torontonians expect nothing less. And it often seems to outsiders, I think, that Torontonians are a bit oblivious to the fact that there ARE other ways of thinking, living, etc. I don't think I could imagine a Toronto lifer not being a bit shocked at being expected to walk half an hour to get somewhere because the public transit doesn't come every seven minutes. I've actually had people tell me that something that was a half hour's walk away was "not in walking distance". This to me is absurd, whereas to some megacity dwellers, if you're going to walk from kipling to islington, well you might as well walk to kennedy for the love of god!

I don't think it's real hatred, more of a good-natured eye-rolling thing maybe?

Does that make sense?
From:apple_danish
Date:August 12th, 2004 06:44 pm (UTC)

true...

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i can't truly understand because i grew up in a large city and, before toronto, i only lived in a suburban area for a couple of years (orange county...which is quite the stereotype itself!)...but I totally agree that a lot of people here are spoiled by the many amenities that a big city offers. what bothers me more is how tainted a lot of the people are...so superficial, and materialistic... but ofcourse, thankfully there are just as many interesting and down to earth people out there too...